Joshua Guvi (00:00):

You just don’t think that the video you make is going to change someone’s decision on something major

Ross Borden (00:06):

Or life.

Joshua Guvi (00:07):

Yeah. Yeah. It’s weird to say that, but yeah, I still have a hard time digesting that’s even real. I know it is, and I get those messages all the time, but I’m a small part in a big mixture. Maybe I tip the pot.

Ross Borden (00:19):

This is creator, the podcast from Matador Network. I’m your host Ross Borden, and I believe creators are the future of all global advertising. So join me as I sit down with top creators to hear about how they got started, the challenges they’ve overcome, and the tips you need to become a full-time creator. All right. We are back with another episode of Creator the podcast. Today we have Josh Vy, an incredibly talented filmmaker, storyteller, and motivational. What do you call yourself? How do you describe yourself when people ask you what you do, Josh?

Joshua Guvi (00:59):

Yeah, I was still figuring that out, but I think you nailed it. Storyteller, filmmaker.

Ross Borden (01:06):

Yeah,

Joshua Guvi (01:08):

That works for

Ross Borden (01:08):

Me. So where are you calling in from today?

Joshua Guvi (01:11):

I’m currently in Shanghai, China.

Ross Borden (01:14):

Okay. And you’re living there, right?

Joshua Guvi (01:17):

Kind of, yeah. I’ve just been basing in different places every year and this year I chose Shanghai just because I had some friends here and it’s kind of a fun place. Yeah, I’m here. I’ve been here for about a month now and I’ll be here for probably about a year.

Ross Borden (01:31):

And where’s home you grow up and where’d you get started?

Joshua Guvi (01:36):

I’m from Vancouver, Canada.

Ross Borden (01:38):

Okay, nice.

Joshua Guvi (01:39):

Yeah.

Ross Borden (01:40):

And so give us a little bit of a background, your origin story as a creator. You said you’ve been there and you’ll be there for maybe a year, and it sounds like you were already traveling before that. So give us a little bit of background for those who don’t follow you.

Joshua Guvi (01:54):

Yeah, for sure. So I’ve been creating for about two years, which it’s all been travel related, so I’ve kind of been traveling nonstop for the last two years. Even when I base somewhere, I’m not actually there that often. Maybe I’m there for two weeks a month. So basing somewhere doesn’t really mean a whole lot, just means it’s a place where I store my stuff. But for the last two years I’ve been on the road, I’ve been all over the world between Asia and sailing around New Zealand or Mongolia or Africa or Europe. It’s been a massive

Ross Borden (02:26):

Big adventures.

Joshua Guvi (02:28):

Yeah, yeah, it’s been really cool though.

Ross Borden (02:30):

I don’t know when you made this video, but one of my favorite videos of yours is something about how to ruin your twenties or something like

Joshua Guvi (02:39):

That,

Ross Borden (02:39):

And it’s sort of about risk taking and the fact that a lot of people fall into this, go to good school, get a good job, make money and be happy, which I’ve always thought is the broken promise of how things are supposed to be. So tell us a little bit about that in the context of your story. Were you in Vancouver, living in Vancouver when you decided to set sail and get out and see the world or tell us about that.

Joshua Guvi (03:12):

Yeah, was I’d been in the city for a long time. I felt like I kind of put all this effort towards creating that life that you feel like you’re supposed to create. I guess you get the apartment in the car and so I actually had torn a muscle at one point and I had surgery in my pectoral in my chest and I was down for about eight months. I guess sometimes it’s not until you slow down and stop doing everything that you actually get to think about what you’re doing when you’re in the process of doing it, you’re just thinking about that next objective or that next thing. But when you’re forced to stop and just kind of look at all of it, sometimes you have these realizations of like, oh, I don’t know if this is what I want to do or who I even am.

(03:55):

So yeah, I just had that moment and I reflected back on when was the last time that I felt like myself, when was the last time that I felt like a kid? And it was when I was in my early twenties, like 21, and I had gone backpacking across Southeast Asia for six months. It was my first big trip and I don’t know, I remember after that trip I always told myself, I was like, I want to spend one year traveling the world. I don’t care how much it’s going to cost me. I don’t care how much money I lose or whatever. I just want to do that. I want to spend a year traveling the world. I want to backpack across the world and I dunno, I just had this day where I was like, that’s what I’m going to do. That’s the closest thing I remember to being happy and it was so long ago, but I’m just going to sell everything that I own here. I didn’t really have enough money to just take off and go for a year, but I sold my car and I moved out of my place. I slept on my friend’s couch for about five months and just saved as much money as I could and decided I was just going to go backpack across the world and quit my job and everything and I didn’t really

Ross Borden (05:03):

Know. So the injury was first you were injured, then you had that realization and then you were like, I’m selling everything. I’m doing it.

Joshua Guvi (05:10):

Yep, absolutely. Yeah, the injury just helped me get there. Mentally focus, I’m sure it would’ve anyways, but it was a bit of a wake up call. It was like, time is running out. You’re going to be stuck in this life if you don’t make a change.

Ross Borden (05:22):

So where did you go first on that? You’re like, alright, I’ve now made the leap. Where did you get the ticket to?

Joshua Guvi (05:30):

So I booked a one-way ticket to Manila in the Philippines. Just it was cheap.

Ross Borden (05:37):

Yeah, great choice actually for that situation.

Joshua Guvi (05:41):

Yeah, it’s good. I was like, where can I really, I don’t have that much cash, so where can I really start slow here? I didn’t want to fly into Dubai or something like that. So I went to Philippines and it was a weird start, to be honest. I think that when I started traveling, it immediately wasn’t this feeling that I remembered. I was so scared that I made the wrong decision for those first couple months. I was like, I don’t know, this is,

Ross Borden (06:08):

Wow. The first couple months you felt like

Joshua Guvi (06:10):

You

Ross Borden (06:11):

Maybe made the wrong decision. Okay. Yeah, I think it was about two and a half months were in Philippines that whole

Joshua Guvi (06:14):

Time. No, I wasn’t in Philippines that whole time. I was in Philippines and then I went to Bali and then I went to Vietnam. I guess it kind of happened in a way that in Philippines I was just kind of exploring. In Bali I was kind of exploring as well, but I made a decision. I was like, okay, I feel like if I’m out here doing this, I want to do something a bit more, something that’s going to help me experience new culture and experience new places even more. So I decided that I want to drive a motorcycle across Vietnam and at this point wasn’t nothing was really sparking it for me. So I was like, maybe this will help. So I went to Vietnam. Do you

Ross Borden (06:56):

Ride motorcycles in Canada or was this a full on new thing for you?

Joshua Guvi (07:01):

I grew up riding dirt bikes. I don’t have a motorcycle license in Canada, but I figured I’d get a dirt bike. You can ride a dirt out on the road. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, I flew to Ho Chi Minh City, which is the bottom of Vietnam, and I got a motorbike and I was terrified and I decided I was going to drive across the country. And in that journey where I was kind of completely disconnected from my world, from anyone that speaks English, I totally felt like I had gone out of my element. I guess in the other places I was just meeting more people from my own world or my own experience, but this really forced me into a new place, into a new thing and it had ups and it had downs and it had really lonely times and it had great times. But somewhere along that way I really reconnected with that feeling that I had missed or that feeling that I’d been chasing for six or seven years. And then it hit me that it was out there and that feeling of happiness or that feeling of seeing new things or experiencing new people or being closer to myself, it did exist. It wasn’t all a pipe dream, what I was scared of, I was like, I might’ve just made all of this up in my head and spent

Ross Borden (08:14):

All this money I a kid traveling 21 and had this romantic idea of what this is and maybe that’s not the way it really is.

Joshua Guvi (08:23):

Exactly. Yeah. So I was terrified that that was going to be the case. It turns out that sometimes these memories that we have or these feelings that we have before, maybe we tell them ourselves that it’s like, ah, this is because I was young or because, but I think sometimes there’s something there and then sometimes it’s worth chasing.

Ross Borden (08:42):

Then were you shooting, you were a trained photographer, filmmaker, you just figuring this stuff out or did that come when you started traveling full time, did you always shoot video? When even home in Vancouver,

Joshua Guvi (08:57):

I had some experience. My friend group was all really into video and photo. So when I was in Vancouver we did a lot of that. So when I started traveling I had some experience, but I guess it was really different than what I was used to in terms of we would meet up and it was planned and under control and when I was traveling it was just a total, everything’s a mess. You have no control anything. And yeah, I learned very quickly that the things I learned were going to have to get a lot better if I was going to be able to do it while I was traveling.

Ross Borden (09:34):

Yeah, well I mean it comes across, man, you’re extremely talented with the camera.

Joshua Guvi (09:38):

Thank you, man, appreciate

Ross Borden (09:39):

It and putting together the stories. And so I really would encourage people if they haven’t checked out your long form on YouTube or your TikTok Instagram, there’s really an amazing level of filmmaking. So tell us a little bit about that now at the level you’re at now. Obviously you built a pretty huge following and I think you’re going to keep growing fast, but in terms of the creative process, walk us through that a little bit. How do you get an idea for a video? Your films for me are like, they’re so well done. It’s almost like you’re storyboarding them out, you’re writing a script and you’re finding shots to fit. Can you tell us a little bit about the creative process? When you make a piece of content,

Joshua Guvi (10:27):

There’s not always a lot of planning. Sometimes there is, sometimes there isn’t. But the core of it really just comes from the inspiration. Trying to have an experience or trying to go about life in a way that I feel more connected with myself and when I do, I feel more likely to create authentic content. And I think people that are following my page, that’s kind of what they’re expecting. That’s kind of what they’re hoping for. So it’s important to me that what I’m doing and what I’m creating is really true to how I feel about something. So a lot of me being inspired or a lot of me creating content I feel is compelling involves me doing something, going somewhere, having an experience that makes me feel connected to the people around me or the world around me. You’re more connected to myself and that’s not always easy to do.

(11:15):

Sometimes you go places or you experience things and it’s hard to find the meaning in it, but usually after just trying something new you can reflect back and be like, okay, this actually meant more to me than I realized in the moment. So yeah, trying to find new experiences and just trying to do things out of my comfort zone. I’m not even that extroverted or that social, it comes across that I am on my social media, but I’m not. I’m really just pushing myself to try new things and do new things because that’s what I learned makes me happy is new experiences and meeting new people and I learned more about the world around me and I dunno, that piece is enough, keep me happy. So doing that and conveying those thoughts and conveying those experiences is really important to me.

Ross Borden (12:00):

So how do you do that? How do you keep going in terms of normal life stuff, making money? What is the business of being a creator? What has that journey been like as you’re living? Sounds like very spontaneously, you’re in Shanghai right now based there, but traveling most of the time to other places. How are you pulling that off financially and what sort of the side of the business of being a creator, what has that been like? What’s your experience?

Joshua Guvi (12:30):

So the business side, it is what you make it. I think when you’re a creator, especially once you get a bit of a following and engagement, you can kind of make as much money as you want, meaning how willing you are to turn your platform into a big store versus not. I’ve been really lucky that I’ve had some brands reach out and sponsor my content just because they like what I do and their requirement of me is very low and it just requires me kind of creating the stuff I like to create. So there’s really very, very little constraints on what I get to do or what I get to look for. So when it comes to money and being a creator, it really depends if you’re more of a business-minded person or if you’re more of a creative minded person, there’s money in both directions.

(13:18):

But ultimately you have to find this delicate balance between making sure that you’re creating the content that you started out with, making sure that you’re doing something that’s true to you because that’s why your audience is there, but also making sure that you’re putting food on the table and some money in your savings account and you’re continuing to live life. I’ve been really lucky with that balance. Most of the collaborations I get and the sponsorships I get give me a lot of freedom and usually they’re quite in line with what I already love to do. I had a job shooting documentaries for a motorcycle adventure company for a year and a half that every couple of months I would just fly out to a new place and chase these skies around on a motorcycle and get paid to do that. That was fantastic. It really enabled me not only to create more of the style of content I created, but was I really enjoyed it. Really fun.

Ross Borden (14:10):

Yeah,

Joshua Guvi (14:10):

Yeah, yeah, really fun. Eventually I had to resign just because if I was doing that job every three months I would be dead in three years. But it was amazing. So yeah, things come up, I dunno, it’s weird when you put yourself out there, people show up and they reach out and that’s really cool and I’m really, really grateful that I’ve managed to have the life that I have and actually get paid to do it. It feels surreal sometimes, but it is true. It’s genuinely a thing. And there’s a million different ways you can do collaborations. You can have brand sponsorships, you can make money directly off your channel or you could sell digital products. It’s whatever approach you want to take and all of those have a lot of earnings opportunity or they can also earn not a lot, it just depends how you approach it.

Ross Borden (14:55):

One thing, I mean the motorcycle example, that’s a pretty unique example, but one thing I’ve noticed is some of your sponsors are more on the creative product side or creative services like their software solutions for filmmakers and creators. So that seems like that’s a dead on fit with you because you’re able to just give mini tutorials or just make awesome content and then people are like, damn, how do I make films like this? And there it is. You could enlist some of these services that you actually use. Has that been your experience?

Joshua Guvi (15:31):

Absolutely. It’s really, I use the services that I work with a lot, so it works really well. It’s a perfect relationship and I really enjoy working with them. I like what they do and I like the teams that I get to work with. So I’m really lucky in that regard that I’m not throwing out random ads for diapers or something like that. I’m lucky to be able to work with things that actually you’d be a

Ross Borden (15:59):

Horrible diaper salesman on a motorcycle in Vietnam.

Joshua Guvi (16:04):

It would’ve made the trip easier.

Ross Borden (16:08):

Cool. And what’s next? So you’re in Shanghai for how long and you chose that you have friends there or how do you choose the places that you’re going to live next and do you know where you’re going next?

Joshua Guvi (16:21):

Yeah, so I never really know. I had just traveled through here to see a friend from high school who was teaching accounting out here, funny enough, very out of my world, and I just was like, man, this place is really, it’s cheap and it’s really easy to get all the things that I need. It’s really cheap to fly to where I want to fly. People are pretty nice and pretty friendly. Not that many people speak English, but that’s okay. The ones that do are really friendly. So I was like, yeah, I could kind of plant here for a year. It just seemed convenient and because of one of my high school best friends was living here, the older I get the more it’s like I don’t need a lot, but if you have someone that you really know nearby, it’s kind of nice. It’s nice to go on a trip and come back and just be able to sit down and I dunno, play video games with a guy that I grew up with that I also really like to reflect on the world that I lived in before this. It’s nice that keeps me grounded. So it’s nice to have friends outside of creating and stuff like that

Ross Borden (17:22):

And where to next, do you know? You know where you’re going to go after Shanghai?

Joshua Guvi (17:27):

So I don’t know, but lately I’ve just had in my mind that I kind of think I’d like to live in New York City for a year. So we’ll see.

Ross Borden (17:34):

Okay.

Joshua Guvi (17:35):

Yeah, I mean it’s a lot more expensive, so we’ll see how this year goes. And based on that,

Ross Borden (17:42):

It sounds like Shanghai has been a good experience. I’ve never been there and I’ve always been really curious. I actually really to go. But one thing that it’s probably my favorite video that I’ve seen of yours where you’re like, you’re on the outside and you don’t belong and you don’t know the language, you don’t know what people are laughing about or what they’re talking about. That’s an unbelievable video. How did you get the inspiration for that? Was it being a foreigner in Shanghai that sort of started that theme?

Joshua Guvi (18:14):

For sure. I think it was actually a mixed experience between definitely China but also Japan too. And it kind of came up again when I got to China because really this is definitely the least people that speak English that of anywhere I’ve ever been. I mean, not that people need to speak English, it’s not their language. It’s lovely that they do, but here a lot of people do. And so when you get here and the culture’s very different than what you’re used to. So if you’re not used to it, you could take offense at a lot of things and a lot of things could feel personal and a lot of times it could feel impossible to cross this barrier of connecting with the people there. But for a YouTube video, a friend and I decided that we wanted to challenge ourselves in the parks. There’s a lot of elderly people that dance in the mornings and they’re basically what feels the farthest from you culturally language.

(19:10):

You just don’t think that they would ever look at you and age and ever look at you and think they could talk to you. And our goal was to try and join a dance group and we thought it was going to be difficult, but day one we just walked in and they were incredibly stoked. We learned this elderly Chinese dance with them. We ended up going back four or five times and we always had to translate over our phones, but we ended up building a really cool relationship with them. And that’s when I realized is that you’re the barriers only in your head. No matter how different from you someone is or what their political, cultural or religious views are, what language they speak, they’re probably looking at you happy to talk to you. It is really like the attitude you put out there is actually probably the attitude you’re going to give back. And that’s when I really realized that a lot of those barriers were just entirely just me. I just made assumptions based on cultural norms a

Ross Borden (20:03):

Hundred percent. And I think most people when they live in one country and they don’t travel, they have a very strong sense of that misconception. And I think travel defeats that misconception. But even you, I mean you’ve traveled all over the world it sounds like pretty extensively for a long time, but you’re still breaking down that barrier. So I thought that was a really amazing message from that video. I saw the Angola video. So tell us a little bit about that. How did you choose to go to Angola? Obviously even for a Sub-Saharan African country, not the most common country people choose to go to. So how did you choose Angola? Who did you go with and what was that trip like?

Joshua Guvi (20:50):

Yeah, so basically the reason we chose it is partially how you described it because we wanted to go somewhere that not a lot of people were going to and we wanted to have a totally new and adventurous experience. So I went with a group of friends who are really as obsessed with adventure as I am, and I found it because I saw a YouTube video, just drone shots, not even like a story, just some guy had filmed some drone shots there and it looked really cool and that’s all I’d seen in the country and me and my friends were like, let’s do it. Let’s rent a car and drive across the country and already renting a car was almost impossible as a foreigner there. So you really get the vibe that there’s not a lot of tourism infrastructure

Ross Borden (21:30):

Because they wouldn’t rent you a car as a westerner because there were no car rental places,

Joshua Guvi (21:34):

There was nothing online, you couldn’t find anything online.

(21:39):

So we ended up having to find someone who ran a tour company and then basically we booked a tour at the end of our trip for four days with them and we’re like, if we book a tour with you, will you help us find a rental car for our first three weeks? And they’re like, yeah, we’ll help you with that. They were actually amazing to us. They were really ended up being, they were so stoked that we wanted to visit Angola that they just ended up, I don’t even know if they made money off of us because they just really made sure our experience hook it up is great. Yeah, I think when you go somewhere new, people are so stoked that you’re like, you go there and you’re going to film it and that you like to experience it. It was wild man. Angola is incredibly beautiful country.

(22:18):

The people are super nice. It’s funny because you arrive in the capital city and it’s like maybe one of the sketchier cities that you’ve been to, so your first impression is like, oh my gosh, what am I in for? We all arrived there, one of our friends almost got robbed and we were just like, okay, this is going to be really intense. But the second that we left the city, it just became an incredible experience. And the second that we kind of got outside of that area, it just became this super incredible, huge adventure and we had no idea what we were in for and for sure we were in over our heads a lot of the time. But it worked. I dunno, it was really cool. I think we all learned a lot and we got to experience some things that I never thought I was going to experience. Even just visiting these remote tribes or driving through 500 kilometers of no cell service, no satellite connection, desert, and it was really a next level adventure and that was really cool. And Africa is definitely the frontier for that. Africa, for people that are experienced that have the equipment and stuff like that. Africa’s kind of that next adventure. It’s like not for intermediate.

Ross Borden (23:30):

I’m obsessed with Africa. We did a Namibia road trip and drove all the way almost up to Angola but not in. So yeah, hearing you talk about that makes me want to be a young man again out in the world and taking road trips in developing countries in Africa. It’s cool.

Joshua Guvi (23:48):

I mean, I feel like I’m old when I’m doing after those trips, so that’s cool, man. Yeah, Namibia. Yeah, it’s a really similar experience. We were also in the Namib Desert in the southern portion Angola, so driving through the desert. It’s really cool.

Ross Borden (24:02):

It’s wild. Yeah.

Joshua Guvi (24:03):

Unreal

Ross Borden (24:03):

Place. Your videos are, I don’t know if I have a positive or negative connotation to motivational whatever. I think there’s a lot of garbage motivational speaking out there, but I feel like you have definitely probably set people off on a new direction in their life who needed encouragement to get out and travel. And I love how you’ve ended. You’re like, you’ll figure it out, but you really plant the seed and you light the fire for people to take a risk and get out in the world and go travel. So tell us about that in general. Why is that your message to people and have you gotten a lot of feedback from your audience and messages and dms from people saying that you’ve inspired them to take more risks and go travel the world?

Joshua Guvi (24:58):

Yeah, I’ll answer the second question first a lot. It’s kind of weird for me because you just don’t think that the video you make is going to change someone’s decision on something major their life. Yeah. Yeah. It’s weird to say that, but yeah, I still have a hard time digesting that’s even real. I know it is, and I get those messages all the time, but I almost feel disconnected from that because it’s like, well, it’s so stoked. I’m so stoked that my message got to them, but I feel like I’m a small part in a big mixture. Maybe I tipped the pot, but of course I think there’s other things that go on that kind of build up to this. But yeah, I’ve got a ton of messages and I meet people every time I go to Bali, I’ll be driving a scooter and someone will pull alongside me and be like, Hey, you’re Josh, and I’ll pull over and they’ll be like, oh, I’m here of you. I’m like, that’s crazy. I hope that, did you quit your job? Is

Ross Borden (25:53):

Everything okay? Is it going to work

Joshua Guvi (25:55):

Out? Yeah, a lot of people told me that they quit their job. That’s awesome. Also terrifying. But no, it’s really cool, man. I think that creating those videos, I am always trying to, I mean obviously it’s in reference to some things that I’ve experienced, but it’s really important to me when I create content that it’s not really about me. Maybe it involves something that I’ve done, but in a lot of my videos I always speak in the second person, so everything is framed as like, imagine you do this or say you go to China or this is how to ruin your twenties. The idea is I don’t really feel the need to just share my story and be like, here’s what I do. You can be inspired off that. I’m always trying to invite people to experience something with me, I guess, because that’s the kind of content that’s smart that I would’ve liked.

(26:48):

And I think it’s important to just frame things through other people’s perspectives. It’s the idea of inviting people to go on this journey and it’s always very suggestive. It’s never like, this is what’s going to happen. I’m like, maybe say maybe all the time because I’m like, I don’t know, but maybe you try this and maybe it changes some views that you have. It’s like you’ll figure it out. It’s always very, I just try and be as realistic as possible. It’s like this is the truth is that if you try something new or you go and change something in your life, it will render results. And even if you don’t always like those results, if you keep doing that, eventually you’re going to grow. That’s just a simple formula as basic as it gets, and nothing I say is new, but it resonates with people and that makes me really happy. You’re like

Ross Borden (27:35):

Not financial advice, not life advice, but maybe you need to just go travel the world and figure some stuff out.

Joshua Guvi (27:44):

I just add that precursor for sure. For a lie though, this is not, this is, is definitely, maybe this will help me.

Ross Borden (27:50):

Definitely it’s advice, but maybe you should buy a one way for plane ticket.

Joshua Guvi (27:54):

Yeah, it’s good that I’m not selling cryptocurrency or something like that.

Ross Borden (27:59):

No, I am not surprised to hear at all that you’ve got thousands of dms that people saying you’ve pushed them out of their comfort zone over the edge to go travel and that it’s working out and they’re happy that did it. So that’s awesome, man. It’s got to feel great. So what’s next for you? I mean, for the content, I know you’re doing longer form videos on YouTube. I saw the Nepal video looked like a hell of an adventure. It’s not an adventure until everything goes wrong, so that was a good one to watch. In terms of your content, are you just continuing to do the same kind of videos or you’re moving to longer form and focusing on YouTube? What’s next for you in terms of the content creation?

Joshua Guvi (28:44):

Yeah, I think the next, for me this year is kind of focused on longer form content, focusing on YouTube videos. I still do short form, but even the short form that I do is going to be longer. Kind of similar to that China video that you referenced. I definitely enjoy the now showing more of the example of what these experiences are rather than just talking about them while I’m sitting down and trying to connect people more with that story. I do really enjoy storytelling. I do really enjoy longer form content. I don’t enjoy how much work it is. I don’t enjoy how much editing it requires, but when you finish something and you tell it a story of something you actually experience and get to connect that with kind of some of the other narratives that I talk about on my Instagram. It’s really cool. So it feels like we’re kind of merging the two between the storytelling and the motivational where I’m still talking about these kind of large subjects about life and things like that, but I’m also relating it to something that’s actually happening on screen, and that’s really fun for me.

Ross Borden (29:47):

Yeah. Well, it’s coming through and we’re stoked to have you on the pod. Thanks for coming. One final question to close that I ask everyone, and it’s like the more you travel, the more places you’ve been. I think the harder this question is, if your passport only worked in three countries, you could only live, work or visit in three countries for the rest of your life, what would those three countries be?

Joshua Guvi (30:10):

Oh, oh, man. That’s a tough question. I think that one would definitely be Mongolia just because Mongolia,

Ross Borden (30:22):

Okay.

Joshua Guvi (30:24):

There’s no better adventure. There’s no better country to just feel absolutely free. And another one would, oh man, I don’t know, probably then I would probably choose some western country to give me some kind of connection to the world I grew up in. I’m not sure it would be Canada though. It’s a little bit cold. Maybe the US or maybe somewhere in Europe,

Ross Borden (30:49):

Canada will forgive you. You can choose the us.

Joshua Guvi (30:51):

It’s okay. Canada’s not that exciting. It’s okay. It’s just all right. It definitely wouldn’t, that wouldn’t be

Ross Borden (30:58):

The one. Us Mongolia, we’ve never had that combo on the show yet. Third one, the hardest one. What’s number three?

Joshua Guvi (31:06):

Oh, this is tough. I mean, I want to say Bali, but I feel like it’s not a good long-term decision because Bali’s kind of starting to overdo it these days, either somewhere, probably

Ross Borden (31:16):

You go to Indonesia, you get all of it now. Indonesia

Joshua Guvi (31:19):

Could do Indonesia, somewhere like tropical.

Ross Borden (31:20):

You get everything else at the

Joshua Guvi (31:21):

Beach and a place to just relax. Or Japan, one of those two.

Ross Borden (31:26):

No, you got, dude, come on, you can’t do. Or Japan, one of those two. It’s pretty much the same place.

Joshua Guvi (31:34):

Okay, we’ll go with Indonesia.

Ross Borden (31:36):

Okay. Indo Mongolia in the us. That is a really good combo we’ve never had.

Joshua Guvi (31:41):

It’s a weird one. Anything

Ross Borden (31:41):

Close to that? Cool. So Josh, we got to a wrap. Thank you again for coming on the show. Great to chat with you and man, love the content, so keep going and keep inspiring people. For those who don’t follow you, where can we find you online?

Joshua Guvi (31:55):

You can find me Josh Vy on Instagram. Josh a drift on TikTok or loss with reason on YouTube.

Ross Borden (32:01):

Got it. Awesome. Josh, thanks for coming. Come back on the pod and tell us about your next adventures a couple of years.

Joshua Guvi (32:07):

Sounds good, man. I’m excited. It was nice to meet you, man. Yeah, cheers. You too.

Ross Borden (32:13):

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